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M*nchesterGolfer said: What do you guys think about this one from Cleveland??? Document Have Cleveland found a gap in the market for this club as was the hybrid section when Cobra brought back the Baffler? I know Chippers have been around for a while and Callaway released the Marxsman last year but this club is differnet from those, it's designed to hit different shots from a full swing to a chip and run. It has a heavy weighted head (swing weight E5 i think), Zip Grooves, an upright lie angle and is putter length at 35".... I'm pretty sure people would have mocked the idea of a hybrid club when they were 1st released, why use one of those when you can shape a 3 or 4 iron instead, Pro's wouldn't hit one etc, etc. Now with this hybrid/wedge/putter it'll be why use the niblick when you can use a wedge? My thoughts.... I'm a solid 6 handicapper and the most inconsistant part of my game is when I'm faced with a shot thats not a full swing. 100 yards is a full Gap wedge, any closer and I'm all over the shop with the Fat shot being a speciality of mine at the moment. Nothing makes me more angry on the course than hitting a great drive to between 20-90 yards of the green and not even threatening a Birdie and some times struggling for Old Man Par. If this club makes those half swing shots easyier I could see me replaceing my GW with this.
*altim said: On my run through the Orlando Golf Shop Gauntlet last week, I found one of these on the used rack already. :laugh: I picked it up and placed it at address, not for me. It is an unusual looking club that feels like a putter at address, but has the sole of a wedge. The best aspect of the Odyssey Marksman was the sole which was wide and putter like. It helped prevent the chili dips and thin hits as you swept the ball with a putting stoke. The Cleveland Niblick's sole is just like a wedge and will be prone to the same two mistakes; thin and fat shots. Ugly looking clubs are great as long as they help you improve your game. Ugly looking clubs that leave you prone to the same mistakes your previous option did will not last long in the bag. If anyone really wants to try a used one, I am sure it will still be in the rack at GS the next time I go back there. :laugh:
M*nchesterGolfer said: ....but the marxman was just a chipper designed for around the green. I wouldn't bag one of those as it's too limited in it's functions and I can use the 7 iron for that shot quite well. It's the longer pitch shots that I tend to Fat. Thats why the Cleveland's a little different...it's for 100 yards and in, for approach shots, pitches and chips.
Cl*gnut said: I'm in the same boat as you, mate. A solid, low handicap whose 5-80 yard game is keeping the index from dropping further. If I can get it within 150 yards, I feel I should have a good look at birdie every time. I think the idea has merit. I certainly could drop a club if I could solidify my shorter game. I'm not sure about hitting this thing from 75 yards, like they claim. Seems odd to use a putting motion from there. If they made a model with a lot more loft, say 56, it would interest me more. Then again, what is stopping me from chipping with my lob wedge with a putting motion? I'm going to go try that!
W*-Golfer said: If I found one for a dirt cheap price, I would give it a try just for the heck of it. I am fine with shots that are 40-90 yds out, I use the GW & know how far I need to swing for each distance. However from 10-30 yds is my real trouble spot, either launch it on the far side of the green where it then rolls off, or I screw up totally & the ball goes a mere 2' because I am afraid of launching it too far.
*altim said: Quote: Originally Posted by ManchesterGolfer ....but the marxman was just a chipper designed for around the green. I wouldn't bag one of those as it's too limited in it's functions and I can use the 7 iron for that shot quite well. It's the longer pitch shots that I tend to Fat. Thats why the Cleveland's a little different...it's for 100 yards and in, for approach shots, pitches and chips. The sole is almost identical to their wedges and if your thinning or fatting the Gap wedge how would this sole help you out? If your not using a chipping motion and take a full swing with the Niblick you are definitely going to dig the heel of the club into the turf due to its upright lie. I mean, its worth a go if your trying to solve a problem, but I really do not see this club catching on.
N*ftyNiblick said: It looks like it could be worth a try, but I don't understand the very upright lie angle when it's not just a chipper..
L*uie_T07 said: I first read a review for one of these in one of our Pro Shop's magazines. I've got mixed feelings about it really. It seemed like only yesterday that club manufactures were making clubs specifically for one aspect of the game; putters for putting, chippers to chip, sandwedges for sand play etc. Now Cleveland has come out with a club that could potentially take the place of 3 or more clubs in someone's bag. I give them huge respect for the uniqueness of the club and more for kicking it old school naming it the Niblick, but is there really a market for it?? Obviously there was a market for hybrids when they first came out, so maybe this thing will take off who knows?? I'm not totally sold on it... yet!
P* Jayhawk said: Here was my opinion from another thread about the Niblick Quote: Originally Posted by Pa Jayhawk I'm confused how something with 42* (or 37*) of loft is going to replace all of my wedges. Would be great if I could hit bump and runs or long running chips on every shot. Although that less than likely on most of the holes I play, and I can do that with my 4i hybrid. This coming from someone who owns a Clutch Iron, which is basically the same concept and likely where Cleveland got their idea. It is the loft of a 5i and the length of a SW and a heavy sole. Loft 25 Lie 65 Length 34.5-35.5 Head Weight 340g Swing Weight Heavy D Light E While it definitely has it's uses and if I could carry more than 14 clubs it would definitely be in my bag, it just does not provide me with enough to justify taking one of my allowable 14 clubs out of my bag. Have owned it for several years and have gone back to it in the past, but just do not see it as anything more than a hindrance over what I can do with any or all of my other 14 clubs. So it usually comes out of my bag after only maybe a week. Haven't put it back in this year, nor do I plan doing so next. I doubt I would even take the niblick over the Clutch Iron that can likely be picked up on eBay for $20 or so. Got mine for about $50 three or four years ago prior to the company folding. edit 1 - Doing a quick search, here is one new for $34 on Overstock.comClutch Golf - Clutch Iron from Overstock.com